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> 1. 3D printing patents (Matt Maier)
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> 3. Re: 3D printing patents (gabriella levine)
> 4. Re: 3D printing patents (gabriella levine)
> 5. Re: 3D printing patents (Robert Cornell)
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> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 10:28:58 -0600
> From: Matt Maier <blueback09 at gmail.com (mailto:blueback09 at gmail.com)>
> To: Open Manufacturing <openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com (mailto:openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com)>, The Open
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> Subject: [Discuss] 3D printing patents
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> What do y'all think about this?
> 
> http://3dprint.com/3187/makerbot-3d-printer-invention/
> 
> *"Makerbot has invented a new type of process which, if it works properly,
> will allow 3D printers to change build material mid print. They have filed
> a patent to protect this solution over a year and a half ago, but just
> recently was it published for the public to see, and 3DPrint.com (http://3DPrint.com) has
> uncovered it."*
> *"The multiple materials would be fed into their individual feeds, which
> are connected to a filament changer (or build material changer). The
> filament changer would be able to slide the extrusion head from material to
> material, in a fluent motion. It would also consist of a blade or other
> cutting edge, that would cut the 1st material before proceeding to the
> second"*
> *"It covers them for other types of print processes other than FDM, and
> also allows for two separate extruders to be alternately positioned along
> the tool path for a similar effect..."*
> 
> It seems like this patent is exactly the sort of thing the community has
> been discussing. Did Makerbot really invent this, or are they trying to
> patent something that the open source community developed first? Is this an
> example of the sort of thing we'd want to respond to in a structured way,
> like doing the prior art search on behalf of the USPTO and pushing the
> results to them?
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> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 10:28:58 -0600
> From: Matt Maier <blueback09 at gmail.com (mailto:blueback09 at gmail.com)>
> To: Open Manufacturing <openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com (mailto:openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com)>, The Open
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> Subject: [Discuss] 3D printing patents
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> What do y'all think about this?
> 
> http://3dprint.com/3187/makerbot-3d-printer-invention/
> 
> *"Makerbot has invented a new type of process which, if it works properly,
> will allow 3D printers to change build material mid print. They have filed
> a patent to protect this solution over a year and a half ago, but just
> recently was it published for the public to see, and 3DPrint.com (http://3DPrint.com) has
> uncovered it."*
> *"The multiple materials would be fed into their individual feeds, which
> are connected to a filament changer (or build material changer). The
> filament changer would be able to slide the extrusion head from material to
> material, in a fluent motion. It would also consist of a blade or other
> cutting edge, that would cut the 1st material before proceeding to the
> second"*
> *"It covers them for other types of print processes other than FDM, and
> also allows for two separate extruders to be alternately positioned along
> the tool path for a similar effect..."*
> 
> It seems like this patent is exactly the sort of thing the community has
> been discussing. Did Makerbot really invent this, or are they trying to
> patent something that the open source community developed first? Is this an
> example of the sort of thing we'd want to respond to in a structured way,
> like doing the prior art search on behalf of the USPTO and pushing the
> results to them?
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> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:48:18 -0700
> From: gabriella levine <gabriella.levine at gmail.com (mailto:gabriella.levine at gmail.com)>
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> Subject: Re: [Discuss] 3D printing patents
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> That sounds totally spot on, from my understanding "Did Makerbot really
> invent this, or are they trying to patent something that the open source
> community developed first? ".
> 
> From my understanding, as a start, would be find documentation of such
> processes in the public domain, documented by the open source community or
> elsewhere ...
> 
> But i'm looking forward to hearing what others respond.
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Matt Maier <blueback09 at gmail.com (mailto:blueback09 at gmail.com)> wrote:
> 
> > What do y'all think about this?
> > 
> > http://3dprint.com/3187/makerbot-3d-printer-invention/
> > 
> > *"Makerbot has invented a new type of process which, if it works properly,
> > will allow 3D printers to change build material mid print. They have filed
> > a patent to protect this solution over a year and a half ago, but just
> > recently was it published for the public to see, and 3DPrint.com (http://3DPrint.com) has
> > uncovered it."*
> > *"The multiple materials would be fed into their individual feeds, which
> > are connected to a filament changer (or build material changer). The
> > filament changer would be able to slide the extrusion head from material to
> > material, in a fluent motion. It would also consist of a blade or other
> > cutting edge, that would cut the 1st material before proceeding to the
> > second"*
> > *"It covers them for other types of print processes other than FDM, and
> > also allows for two separate extruders to be alternately positioned along
> > the tool path for a similar effect..."*
> > 
> > It seems like this patent is exactly the sort of thing the community has
> > been discussing. Did Makerbot really invent this, or are they trying to
> > patent something that the open source community developed first? Is this an
> > example of the sort of thing we'd want to respond to in a structured way,
> > like doing the prior art search on behalf of the USPTO and pushing the
> > results to them?
> > 
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> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:48:18 -0700
> From: gabriella levine <gabriella.levine at gmail.com (mailto:gabriella.levine at gmail.com)>
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> Subject: Re: [Discuss] 3D printing patents
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> 
> That sounds totally spot on, from my understanding "Did Makerbot really
> invent this, or are they trying to patent something that the open source
> community developed first? ".
> 
> From my understanding, as a start, would be find documentation of such
> processes in the public domain, documented by the open source community or
> elsewhere ...
> 
> But i'm looking forward to hearing what others respond.
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Matt Maier <blueback09 at gmail.com (mailto:blueback09 at gmail.com)> wrote:
> 
> > What do y'all think about this?
> > 
> > http://3dprint.com/3187/makerbot-3d-printer-invention/
> > 
> > *"Makerbot has invented a new type of process which, if it works properly,
> > will allow 3D printers to change build material mid print. They have filed
> > a patent to protect this solution over a year and a half ago, but just
> > recently was it published for the public to see, and 3DPrint.com (http://3DPrint.com) has
> > uncovered it."*
> > *"The multiple materials would be fed into their individual feeds, which
> > are connected to a filament changer (or build material changer). The
> > filament changer would be able to slide the extrusion head from material to
> > material, in a fluent motion. It would also consist of a blade or other
> > cutting edge, that would cut the 1st material before proceeding to the
> > second"*
> > *"It covers them for other types of print processes other than FDM, and
> > also allows for two separate extruders to be alternately positioned along
> > the tool path for a similar effect..."*
> > 
> > It seems like this patent is exactly the sort of thing the community has
> > been discussing. Did Makerbot really invent this, or are they trying to
> > patent something that the open source community developed first? Is this an
> > example of the sort of thing we'd want to respond to in a structured way,
> > like doing the prior art search on behalf of the USPTO and pushing the
> > results to them?
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
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> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:50:47 +0100
> From: Robert Cornell <bobnet604 at gmail.com (mailto:bobnet604 at gmail.com)>
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> Hello,
> 
> RepRapPro have a blog post
> https://reprappro.com/2014/04/15/multimaterial-research/ and I've been
> playing with the idea.
> It's a better method that would make the patent mentioned irrelevant.
> 
> When Stratasys took over MakerBot and they closed their design there was a
> lot of discussion about how they cashed out
> on open source efforts. I suppose something like this was inevitable.
> 
> I can't recall seeing this exact method before so maybe they did 'invent'
> it. I'm going to read the patent and dig into the archives.
> 
> Rob
> --
> openpart.co.uk (http://openpart.co.uk)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 13 May 2014 17:28, Matt Maier <blueback09 at gmail.com (mailto:blueback09 at gmail.com)> wrote:
> 
> > What do y'all think about this?
> > 
> > http://3dprint.com/3187/makerbot-3d-printer-invention/
> > 
> > *"Makerbot has invented a new type of process which, if it works properly,
> > will allow 3D printers to change build material mid print. They have filed
> > a patent to protect this solution over a year and a half ago, but just
> > recently was it published for the public to see, and 3DPrint.com (http://3DPrint.com) has
> > uncovered it."*
> > *"The multiple materials would be fed into their individual feeds, which
> > are connected to a filament changer (or build material changer). The
> > filament changer would be able to slide the extrusion head from material to
> > material, in a fluent motion. It would also consist of a blade or other
> > cutting edge, that would cut the 1st material before proceeding to the
> > second"*
> > *"It covers them for other types of print processes other than FDM, and
> > also allows for two separate extruders to be alternately positioned along
> > the tool path for a similar effect..."*
> > 
> > It seems like this patent is exactly the sort of thing the community has
> > been discussing. Did Makerbot really invent this, or are they trying to
> > patent something that the open source community developed first? Is this an
> > example of the sort of thing we'd want to respond to in a structured way,
> > like doing the prior art search on behalf of the USPTO and pushing the
> > results to them?
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > discuss mailing list
> > discuss at lists.oshwa.org (mailto:discuss at lists.oshwa.org)
> > http://lists.oshwa.org/listinfo/discuss
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