[Discuss] Is CC BY-NC-SA not Open Source Hardware?

Michael Weinberg mweinberg at publicknowledge.org
Fri Apr 11 14:05:40 UTC 2014

probably also worth mentioning here that, as a general matter, a copyright
on plans for a useful object (like, say, a 3D printer) doesn't mean that
making said object is copyright infringement.  Details of Printrbot
specifically may vary, but it may be a useful thing to keep in mind.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Emilio Velis <contacto at emiliovelis.com>wrote:

> But that leaves us with a very ambiguous use of the term 'open'. If you
> check the CC faq, they recommend to use approved licenses only for software:
> http://opensource.org/licenses
> In the case of OSHW, due to being different than intangible goods, a list
> of requirements has to be developed for people to make sure their work is
> not open in tue definition sense of the term (i.e. source code available)
> but also regarding all layers of content and freedoms of use. A metadesign
> of licensing so that others can build upon and create options for tinkerers
> to use.
> El abr 11, 2014 7:39 AM, "Andrew Back" <andrew at carrierdetect.com>
> escribió:
>  On 11 April 2014 14:19, Emilio Velis <contacto at emiliovelis.com> wrote:
>> > Question. Is there a list of approved licenses for OSHW? For example,
>> > something like "your work must be under the following licenses".
>> Not that I know of, but it isn't difficult to ascertain what can be
>> regarded as such by referring to the Open Source Definition:
>>   http://opensource.org/osd-annotated
>> Discrimination against field of endeavour being the issue at hand here.
>> If in doubt simply consider whether the licence is aligned with open
>> source as it has come to be understood over the last 17 or so years.
>> Every now and again you see attempts to subvert this, e.g. via use of
>> NC licences with the term or purported ancillary rules, but you cannot
>> change the meaning of something so well established. Which is not to
>> say that there are not opportunities for new paradigms and which adopt
>> some term other than "open source".
>> > Regarding NC, that would be shareware by the book.
>> Not really, as you rarely get the source with shareware.
>> Cheers,
>> Andrew
>> --
>> Andrew Back
>> http://carrierdetect.com
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