[Discuss] the significance of oshw

Mario Gómez mxgxw.alpha at gmail.com
Fri Nov 8 19:09:18 UTC 2013


Hi Tiberius!

I was reading your testimonial and I'm really interested on hearing more
about your experciences with Universities. Here in El Salvador many
education centers have started to work with OSHW solutions, specifically
Arduino. But in most of the cases what I have saw is that they miss the
whole picture of collaborate and distribute their projects and results.

In our country the universities doesn't monetize their investigations, as I
wrote in my previous message many projects are doomed to collect dust in
their libraries. But at the same time they don't want to embrace the "open"
concept. I think that Emilio Velis has a funny history about how they
convinced a local University to publish their student's thesis works with
CC licences and then they stopped using it when they figured what they
really meant.

Regards,
Mario



On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Tiberius Brastaviceanu <
tiberius.brastaviceanu at gmail.com> wrote:

> I added my testimonials in the Google doc
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K0JyOKWbldWtXXpqhAOTsGQ23NmEtQit6bDlLLTbFhs/edit#heading=h.vdhbp2m90ajl
>
> I can contribute with more if anyone has specific questions!
>
> Thanks! I like the initiative!
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM, gabriella levine <
> gabriella.levine at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hey catarina - here's a link to a recent talk i gave on open hw -
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm_nd_7RneI
>>
>> it was to a quite laymen audience so it's really simplistic but I guess
>> it is sort of my testimonial in a sense.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Catarina Mota <catarina at openmaterials.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Matt, I added your comment to the testimonials<http://www.oshwa.org/testimonials/>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Michael Shiloh, it would be awesome to hear your take on the educational
>>> side.
>>>
>>> Anyone else has testimonials about the significance of OSHW they'd like
>>> to contribute?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Matt Maier <blueback09 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> "How much would a prostetic hand cost?"
>>>> "10,000 dollars."
>>>> "How much did your own design cost?"
>>>> "I dunno, like, ten bucks."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://olimex.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/open-source-hardware-allow-casual-people-to-make-innovations/
>>>>
>>>> This is the kind of improvement that's possible in technology when you
>>>> don't keep secrets. 3D printers have been around for decades, which means a
>>>> simple, writs-activated prosthetic hand could have been manufactured on 3D
>>>> printers and sold for $50 a long time ago. But nobody did that because it
>>>> was more profitable to just keep everything a secret and make people pay
>>>> through the nose for a proprietary solution.
>>>>
>>>> Open hardware allows the actual lowest-cost solution to be widely
>>>> shared. It means that the people who actually NEED the lowest-cost
>>>> solutions can just provide for themselves instead of waiting for the market
>>>> to maybe deliver it, eventually...for a price that takes advantage of their
>>>> need.
>>>>
>>>> All of those zeros in the price of commercial prosthetic hands have
>>>> nothing to do with the inherent technology. They're a reflection of how
>>>> much people are willing to pay when they need a new hand. Open hardware
>>>> removes those zeros, reduces prices by orders of magnitude, simply by
>>>> negating the price that can be charged for secrets.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Catarina Mota <catarinamfmota at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been thinking about the real significance of open source
>>>>> hardware. We spend a lot time discussing how to do OSHW right. We usually
>>>>> explain its advantages by saying that it allows people to copy, modify, and
>>>>> transform hardware, which leads to faster development and better
>>>>> technologies. But I think there is more to it than that. In some recent
>>>>> conversations, a few people mentioned the sense of empowerment and
>>>>> liberation that comes from creating and modifying technologies, which makes
>>>>> me think that there are deeper cultural implications here.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I was thinking that it would be nice to compile a series of
>>>>> testimonials about what people perceive as the personal, practical,
>>>>> political, cultural, social or economic advantages and disadvantages of
>>>>> open source hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> If OSHWA agrees, we can create a page for these testimonials/opinions
>>>>> on oshwa.org. Or, if for any reason, that is problematic, I can find
>>>>> another place to publish them. I just think that it's important to put a
>>>>> more human face on our outreach efforts (rather than just publishing
>>>>> technical and legal information).
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone want to contribute? There's no structure, just whatever
>>>>> you want to say about this topic. If you post your opinions on this list I
>>>>> can collect, compile and publish them (on oshwa.org or somewhere
>>>>> else). Hopefully this can also trigger an interesting discussion :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Catarina
>>>>>
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