[Discuss] The institutionalization of OSHW

Catarina Mota catarina at openmaterials.org
Sat Sep 29 03:55:10 UTC 2012

Yes, well put! That's exactly what I wanted to express, but my exhausted
brain couldn't quite do it :)

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Michael James <
michael at opensourcehardwarejunkies.com> wrote:

> I am a bit confused when people say Open Source Hardware Company.
> Any company can sell OSHW.  The OSHW designation applies to devices not
> business entities.
> Radio Shack carries Open Source Hardware - good for them I say and for
> If a company wants to sell open and close source - power to them.  If
> their customer base feels alienated they can (and will) vote with their
> wallets.
> -Michael
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Catarina Mota <catarina at openmaterials.org
> > wrote:
>> I'm seriously sleep deprived, so take this with a grain of salt :)
>> Perhaps we should stop using the expression "OSHW company." Otherwise,
>> we'll end up having to determine what percentage of a business's products
>> must be OHSW for that company to be considered open source. We don't need a
>> company certification process, not right now I think.
>> While I agree that some people behaved shamefully last week, let's keep
>> in mind that they're a handful of individuals. Yesterday we stuffed almost
>> 500 people in a warehouse to discuss controversial issues and everyone (as
>> far as know) behaved beautifully. So much so that the Eyebeam team
>> complimented us on being unusually friendly, respectful and upbeat. Many
>> sponsors, speakers and attendees showed up early (some of them were 2 days
>> early) and, instead of taking a seat, rolled up their sleeves and started
>> deploying chairs and picking up trash - yup, we put CEOs on trash duty
>> :) The outpour of love and support in our inbox and twitter stream today
>> has been one of the most moving things I've experienced. So while we can't
>> condone rudeness and disrespect, we should also celebrate the majority that
>> is so kind and supportive.
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:04 PM, phillip torrone <pt at oreilly.com> wrote:
>>> 2 weeks ago i got the usual once-a-month "purity" email from some random
>>> person saying "you're not open source because you use quickbooks, or
>>> windows, or EAGLE" etc.. but now this week adafruit along with sparkfun is
>>> back to being a "good example of an open source hardware" company.
>>> i read your post and you say "Ok fine, I understand the need to
>>> discourage knock-offs.  But if you do this you are NOT 100% Open Source
>>> Hardware." -
>>> ok, but really, who is or isn't open source enough this week?
>>> is sparkfun 100%, is adafruit 100%, what about EMSL? they have a kit
>>> that's not OSHW, so does everyone else who i consider an oshw company. are
>>> we pure enough?
>>> our company statement, actually, limor's is "we're going to keep
>>> shipping OSHW while everyone argues about open source hardware". we're
>>> going to keep doing open source, we'll show that's an amazing cause and an
>>> amazing business, smart people will want to join us.
>>> last week the most vocal voices in the open source 3d printing community
>>> didn't inspire anyone to want to join their cause, in fact a 3d printer
>>> maker told me "wow, glad we never did (or will do open source). that's the
>>> worst thing i think, people steering clear of open source because of a
>>> "damned if you do, damned if you don't?
>>> i really don't know what's next, but i'm thinking about. for now,  i'm
>>> really excited about the OSHWA, because they're a group of people that has
>>> the mission to celebrate OSHW companies, i'd like to know i can work hard
>>> and someone *else* is going to say "these folks are doing OSHW, support
>>> them".
>>> i'm going to do my best to get them members and help them celebrate oshw.
>>> join in :)
>>> cheers,
>>> pt
>>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Stone <stone at toastedcircuits.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> As I listened to the OSHW summit speakers, I felt a pretty disturbing
>>> trend towards closing aspects of some products, and "yes-sirring" both real
>>> and "fake" regulatory bodies (as opposed to reluctantly complying) by the
>>> well-regarded members of our community.  And then of course there were lots
>>> of great presentations of cool stuff that completely disregarded all that.
>>> >
>>> > Looks like some of us are growing up :-(.  Did you feel that way?
>>> >
>>> > My full blog posting:
>>> http://effluviaofascatteredmind.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-institutionalization-of-oshw.html
>>> >
>>> > Cheers!
>>> > Andrew
>>> >
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