<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">There is of course another, much less aggressive route, which I normally recommend and which more often than not has proved successful:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Try to get he other party to co-operate and share efforts</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">/ Peter</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 28 Feb 2016, at 19:44, Emilio Velis <<a href="mailto:contacto@emiliovelis.com" class="">contacto@emiliovelis.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Marcin,<br class=""><br class="">IANAL either, but here are a couple of approaches that you might want to discuss with your lawyer:<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">1. Apply for a trademark in the jurisdiction where they operate and attain to consequences. Sometimes trademarks aren't granted solely on the basis of who applied first but also on how known the brand is. I don't know if it would work but it's worth a try.<br class=""></div><div class="">2. Treat your trademark and related content as copyright. In Spain there should be a doctrine for moral rights which could possibly give you a grip on this issue.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If nothing else works, let's just find you a community in the region (Spain, Hungry) for OSE to do cool and open things there.<br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 February 2016 at 06:43, Tom Igoe <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:tom.igoe@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">tom.igoe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">If you own the trademark, the standard way to handle it is to send them a cease & desist letter. I believe as the owner of the trademark, you’re expected to defend it if you want to retain it. Confirm that with a lawyer, though. <div class=""><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br class=""></font></span><div class=""><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br class=""></font></span><div class=""><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""></font></span><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="">On Feb 28, 2016, at 4:59 AM, Marcin Jakubowski <<a href="mailto:marcin@opensourceecology.org" target="_blank" class="">marcin@opensourceecology.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Friends, </span><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Jae Sabol of <a href="http://onecommunityglobal.org/" target="_blank" class="">One Community</a> pointed this out to me some time ago a group called Envienta, who is using Open Source Ecology as a prominent byline in their branding. I am the director of Open Source Ecology and we have a trademark on Open Source Ecology. Jae emailed them asking if they knew that we have a trademark on the name, but he got no response - that was a few months ago. The association with Envienta is not positive from the open source perspective - in that they do not appear use an OSHWA compliant hardware license (they appear to be NC) - so we should probably give them a friendly reminder to not use our name. I am concerned about them diluting our brand, as they promote fake open source, contrasted with our strong open source positioning such as the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154627270176562/?type=3&theater" target="_blank" class="">Distributive Enterprise Business Case</a>.</span></div><div class=""><font face="helvetica, arial, sans-serif" color="#141823" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="helvetica, arial, sans-serif" color="#141823" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Does anyone have any suggestions how to handle this?</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="helvetica, arial, sans-serif" color="#141823" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="helvetica, arial, sans-serif" color="#141823" class=""><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">Marcin<br clear="all" class=""></span></font><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Non-confidentiality Disclaimer:</b> OSE works openly. 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