<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I think the beliefs and values that we share with rms and other free software / free hardware design advocates are much more important than any disagreement over the preferred term. Rather than arguing about what to call these activities, we should be trying to work together with rms, with Wired, and with whoever we can to encourage people to make their hardware designs available to the world. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eben Moglen’s keynote at the Open Hardware Summit was one small (but inspiring) example of how we might work together.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David </div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Nancy Ouyang <<a href="mailto:nancy.ouyang@gmail.com" class="">nancy.ouyang@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Why... why is WIRED giving airtime to this rms crank who can't even be bothered to reach out to the entire open source hardware community on this list (prior art, please) or mention the hard work done by OSHWA / Alicia Gibbs / other folks?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">--Nancy, semi-seriously, I realize rms is a Big Deal, but really? Wired is going to promulgate rms on this "free hardware" term when we've already standardized around open source hardware? I hope at least this wasn't published in the print magazine, or else I'm going to start picking a fight with rms and that's going to be a drastic waste of everyone's time, lol.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font class=""><font color="#666666" class="">~~~<br class=""><a href="http://narwhaledu.com/" target="_blank" class="">narwhaledu.com</a>, educational <a href="http://gfycat.com/ExcitableLeanAkitainu" target="_blank" class="">robots</a> [[<(._.)>]] </font></font><a href="http://www.orangenarwhals.com/" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank" class="">my personal blog</a><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-size:12.8000001907349px" class="">, orangenarwhals</span></div><div class=""><font color="#666666" class=""><a href="http://arvados.org/" target="_blank" class="">arvados.org</a> (open source software for provenance, reproducing, and scaling your analyses)</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Drew Fustini <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:pdp7pdp7@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">pdp7pdp7@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr" class="">FYI, part 2 of 3 planned essays in Wired by rms on Free/Libre Hardware Designs.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">"Hardware Designs Should Be Free. Here’s How to Do It"<br class="">
<a href="http://www.wired.com/2015/03/richard-stallman-how-to-make-hardware-designs-free" target="_blank" class="">http://www.wired.com/2015/03/richard-stallman-how-to-make-hardware-designs-free</a></p><p dir="ltr" class="">Coincidentally, rms visited Chicago, where I live, on Tuesday to give a talk. I got to ask him what he thought was a good license for Free/Libre Hardware designs. He believes the GPLv3 is the correct license to use. However, he noted it only covers those design elements to which copyright applies. (I know the subject of where that line falls has been covered by Ari & others at past Open Hardware Summits).</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Cheers<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br class="">
Drew</font></span></p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 11, 2015 2:57 PM, "Drew Fustini" <<a href="mailto:pdp7pdp7@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">pdp7pdp7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">hmm, just saw this on Slashdot:<br class="">
"Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs"<br class="">
<a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/1648243/why-we-need-free-digital-hardware-designs" target="_blank" class="">http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/1648243/why-we-need-free-digital-hardware-designs</a><br class="">
<br class="">
Links to Wired:<br class="">
<a href="http://www.wired.com/2015/03/need-free-digital-hardware-designs/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.wired.com/2015/03/need-free-digital-hardware-designs/</a><br class="">
<br class="">
It appears to me that Richard Stallman wrote this article.<br class="">
<br class="">
Here is a quote:<br class="">
"the concept we really need is that of a free hardware design. That’s<br class="">
simple: it means a design that permits users to use the design (i.e.,<br class="">
fabricate hardware from it) and to copy and redistribute it, with or<br class="">
without changes. The design must provide the same four freedoms that<br class="">
define free software."<br class="">
<br class="">
I do like the philosophy behind it, but I am afraid the introduction<br class="">
of the term "Free Hardware" will increase confusion about hardware<br class="">
licensing.<br class="">
<br class="">
cheers,<br class="">
drew<br class="">
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