<div dir="ltr">Off the4 top of my head, Key Messages in any media activity should probably include the following:<div><br></div><div style>Open Source Hardware philosophies enable innovative product development and manufacturing approaches which:</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>- Create JOBS</div><div style>--- Examples include DIY drones, SparkFun, Makerbot, etc. A jobs created # would be helpful here if we had any way of calculating it</div><div style><br></div>
<div style> - Improve quality of life, for instance for those with medical challenges and disabilities</div><div style> --- examples here include the printed liver, the hand thing that broke this week, etc</div><div style>
<br></div><div style> - Accessable to everyone</div><div style>--- Ability to create jobs and access benefits at low cost and with few barriers to entry enables broad benefit to every segment of society</div><div style><br>
</div><div style> - Limitless untapped future potential</div><div style>--- Consumer Electronics, Medical Devices, Prosthesis, Fashion, Aerospace are but a few of the industry categories benefitting.</div><div style><br></div>
<div style>A wide variety of regulatory bodies and structures oversee the various industries where Open Source Hardware and innovative product development and manufacturing approaches are now being experimented with. </div>
<div style><br></div><div style>As these experiments continue and the potential for widespread benefit continues to grow, there will continue to be instances where regulatory and other concerns will need to be managed and mitigated over time. </div>
<div style><br></div><div style>This is true in any environment of rapidly maturing technology development, and indicates the swift progress that is being made.<br></div><div style><br></div><div style>The Open Source Hardware Community, which continues to innovate in product development and manufacturing approaches for the benefit of all, welcomes the involvement of all parties, including the US Government, in discussions about how to maximize these technologies for the benefit of the people of the US and World.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Or something like that,anyway.</div><div style> </div><div style><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>_________________________________________<br>malcolm stanley<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Tom Igoe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t.igoe@arduino.cc" target="_blank">t.igoe@arduino.cc</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I agree Will, good approach. What tactics do you recommend? <div><br></div><div>Let's try a positive tack: what examples of open IP can we point to that are already influencing the general public's lives for the better? </div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>t.</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div><div>On May 10, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Will Canine <<a href="mailto:willcanine@gmail.com" target="_blank">willcanine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I think you're right that there is a danger if Cody Wilson's radical voice is the only one people manage to hear -- and his combination of two controversial subjects is, as you point out, a powerful amplifier. People are listening, and the press is looking hungrily for the next step in this story. <div>
<br></div><div>We are not in a position to influence Cody's tactics, no matter how ill-advised we might find them. We are, however, in a strong position to offer the passionate, informed, and moderate counter point in a debate that is gaining national attention. I think some sort of open letter or interview, some sort of call for a debate, something, is in order. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Bottom line: I think we should be talking about our own tactics in this media situation, not just others'. What do you all think? </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Matt Joyce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Flip side is of course you can argue that ITAR prevents other countries from competing with us by denying them access to our special sauce.<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
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On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Tom Igoe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t.igoe@arduino.cc" target="_blank">t.igoe@arduino.cc</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">What's likely to shake ITAR is money going overseas because of it. If I wanted to counter it, I'd show how the US is losing money because of it. As a country, we've shown quite decisively lately that we have no political will to stop anything to do with weapons, but we sure as hell care when a non-American takes a job we believe is ours (whether it is or not).<span><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>t.</div></font></span><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 10, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Matt Joyce <<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>My understanding is that ardupilot does their releases from Europe specifically to avoid potential ITAR violations.<br><br></div>ITAR is fairly heavily used to restrict aerospace and space systems work.<br>
<br></div>SpaceGambit for instance being Darpa funded cannot escape ITAR restrictions. Which severely limits what they can do and with whom ( IE non US citizens ).<br><br></div>In Cody's case, he is a lot more vocal about being a rebellious hellion than he actually is. The man is very good at dotting 'i's and crossing 't's. The DoD ITAR transgressions aren't proven and the DoD simply requested they formalize any classification of the specified CAD work. Most of those were fairly esoteric... including designs for a tank shell, an adapter for an oil can silencer, and the liberator. The liberator is most likely not covered by ITAR. The tank shell probably is.<br>
<br></div>But yes. ITAR is real. We are all required to adhere to it in the US.<br><br></div>-Matt<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Tom Igoe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t.igoe@arduino.cc" target="_blank">t.igoe@arduino.cc</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I have a pretty good understanding of his tactics, I've been through a number of interviews and articles, and seen similar patterns before. I just think they are ill-advised. He's got two controversial topics in his actions: weapons reform, and intellectual property reform. By doing what he's doing, he's tied the two together in many people's minds. So now those same people will be less receptive to the idea that intellectual property regulation on its own is worth discussing.<div>
<br></div><div>Cody's chosen to take a radical stance. That's fine, but the consequence of that choose is that you alienate more people than you do than by taking a collaborative stance. He's got to live with that consequence, and unfortunately, now so do those of us who share his feelings about intellectual property reform.</div>
<div><br></div><div><div>t.</div><div><br><div><div>On May 10, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Will Canine <<a href="mailto:willcanine@gmail.com" target="_blank">willcanine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto"><div>I think that Wilson's point is that regulation can't stop the dispersion of disruptive designs via the Internet; he is not really looking for a waver or exemption or anything like that. His point is that now it's started, it can't be stopped, regulation be damned. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm as uninterested in guns as anyone here, but I do think it's worth looking at what he is doing more closely -- his tactics are worth learning from at the very least. </div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On May 10, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Tom Igoe <<a href="mailto:tom.igoe@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.igoe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">I'd have to agree, Malcolm.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
malcolm stanley <<a href="mailto:a.malcolm.stanley@gmail.com" target="_blank">a.malcolm.stanley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">My experience with Export Control for encryption technologies used in consumer devices, instantiated as DRM solutions for Video on Demand movies, suggests to me that the exception being sought is somewhat ... unrealistic.<div>
<br></div><div>Weaponization of any technology is probably a poor strategy for accomplishing the acheivement of a waiver from regulation.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>_________________________________________<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Matt Maier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blueback09@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueback09@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">This is a dilemma that's been building up for a while now. Open source is all about sharing ideas so that anyone who wants to build them, or build off of them, can do so. Export control is a legal regime that makes sharing of certain ideas with non-authorized entities a federal crime.<div>
<br></div><div>Those of you who were at the hardware documentation jam might remember the subject of legal constraints coming up, but at the time I didn't have a good example.</div><div><br></div><div>
It would seem that we now have our test case. The State Department has ordered Defense Distributed to stop that whole "sharing guns" thing while they review whether or not making them internationally available violates International Traffic in Arms Regulations.</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/09/state-department-demands-takedown-of-3d-printable-gun-for-possible-export-control-violation/" target="_blank">http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/09/state-department-demands-takedown-of-3d-printable-gun-for-possible-export-control-violation/</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Cody Wilson, a law student, says that what he's doing falls into a protected exception for non-profit public domain research. His argument is that the files are "stored in a library" in the sense that all libraries have internet access and there is a single bookstore in Austin providing the published plans. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Getting any kind of official exception to export control for open source technology development would be a huge win. It would pave the way for much more ambitious projects.</div><span><font color="#888888"></font><div>
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