<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Call its open when it's open. One can always plan and lay graphics out on your equipment and packaging, but if it ships/posts/ is deployed in a significant way with a logo and it's not open yet, thats should not be allowed. It's like a UL logo. You plan for it, but they wouldn't let a product ship that didn't pass their standards and still use their logo. <br>
<br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Tom Igoe <<a href="mailto:tom.igoe@gmail.com">tom.igoe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">That argues in favor of only calling it open when it ships, doesn't it?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">Marco Perry <<a href="mailto:mperry@pensanyc.com">mperry@pensanyc.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>What if the person doesn't follow thru with best practices? It's hard to revoke if the boards and package is printed.<br><br>Sent from my newly outdated iPhone 4S</div><div><br>On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Tom Igoe <<a href="mailto:tom.igoe@gmail.com">tom.igoe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I'd agree with that, though it's an interesting question for things like Kickstarter campaigns. Do you release the files when you start your kickstarter campaign, or when you ship? <div>
<br></div><div>r.</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:49 AM, David A. Mellis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div dir="ltr">
Personally, I think it's okay to use "open-source hardware" and the logo as long as the design files are released with the product. Before release, the distinction between "is" and "will be" seems like a subtle one -- for everything about the product, not just whether or not it's open-source. </div>
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