[Discuss] Open source files and code (and license) for Arduino products missing?

Adam me at adammunich.com
Thu Jun 15 21:13:15 UTC 2017


It's not clear to me this is intentional, or, just bad organization or
documentation?



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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:11 PM, phillip torrone <pt at adafruit.com> wrote:

> and here is some more.
>
> installed Orcad Capture Lite (which was quite an adventure :) we were able
> to example the DSN files posted for other products. these are in addition
> to the list of items from before.
>
> Arduino TIAN
>         http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-tian
>         The "DSN" file posted is the orcad schematic only - there is no
> board file information or layout included (it's the same as the PDF)
>
> Arduino INDUSTRIAL 101
>         http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-industrial-101
>         the link "EAGLE files: arduino-industrial101-reference-design.zip"
> does not link to Eagle files.
>         the logos on the physical board include DogHunter and linino.
>
>         it is a zip of an ORCAD DSN file which is also just a schematic.
> there is no board file information or  layout included (it's the same as
> the PDF)
>         the WiFi/Linux logic is in a blackbox called 'chiwawa' module.
>
>         this module has an Arduino logo on the PCB and tin. It appears to
> be exclusively designed by "doghunter" (also the author of the Arduino
> Industrial 101 schematics)
>         http://www.doghunter.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/chiwawa2.jpg
>
>         we could not find any schematics or layout for this module
> anywhere.
>
> Arduino YUN
>         http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-yun
>         also no board layout files, only schematic in PDF and Orcad DSN
> format (it's the same as the PDF)
>         this file does have a Creative Commons 2.5 BY-SA notice on it
>
> thanks,
> pt
> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:46 AM, Phillip Torrone <pt at adafruit.com> wrote:
> >
> > a few people emailed me directly and pointed out there are a lot more
> arduino.org products that are missing files and licenses, code, etc. here
> is another...
> >
> > Braccio
> > http://www.arduino.org/products/tinkerkit/arduino-tinkerkit-braccio
> > Schematic & Reference Design
> > EAGLE files: Braccio-Shield-reference-design.zip (coming soon)
> > Schematic: Braccio-Shield-schematic.pdf (coming soon)
> > (and it appears there is no indication the mechanics will be released
> either)
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:21 PM, phillip torrone <pt at adafruit.com>
> wrote:
> > on arduino day april 1, 2017 there was the promise to keep arduino open
> source, it's on the packaging and more and is what is advertised. consumers
> are purchasing things that are called open-source when it comes to arduino
> products.
> >
> > here's a cursory review of some of the boards from arduino.org. there
> are some missing files/licenses we looked for but could not find.
> >
> > Arduino Primo: http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-primo
> > "Schematic & Reference Design - Coming soon"
> >
> > there's also firmware burned onto the STM32FL103
> >         https://github.com/arduino-org/arduino-core-nrf52/tree/mast
> er/firmwares/primo/stm32
> >         but unclear where the source code for that lives or what license
> its under
> >
> > Star Otto:   http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-star-otto
> >         Only Schematic posted, no license indicated, DogHunter logo is
> the only ownership note
> >         http://www.arduino.org/images/tutorials/ARDUINO-STAR-
> V31-Schematic.pdf
> >
> > Arduino STAR - LCD http://www.arduino.org/product
> s/accessories/arduino-star-lcd
> >         No technical files.
> >
> > Arduino YUN MINI: http://www.arduino.org/product
> s/boards/arduino-yun-mini
> >         Only schematic posted, no license indicated, DogHunter is
> author/owner
> >         http://download.arduino.org/products/YUNMINI/Arduino-yun-mi
> ni-schematics.pdf
> >         Schematic black-boxes "WiFi module" despite it being an integral
> part of the board and designed by Arduino.org, not a submodule
> >
> > Arduino LUCKY SHIELD: http://www.arduino.org/product
> s/shields/arduino-lucky-shield
> >         Schematics have no license indicated, DogHunter is author/owner
> >         EAGLE files: arduino-Lucky-Shield-reference-design.zip links to
> a PDF of the gerber print with no Eagle Files, DogHunter/Linino is
> author/owner
> >
> > some of these are new products so perhaps it takes some time, however
> some are from 2014, 2015 or 2016:
> >         http://download.arduino.org/products/LUCKY/SHIELD_LUCKY_V03
> 2_20150224_SCH.pdf
> >         http://download.arduino.org/products/YUNMINI/Arduino-yun-mi
> ni-schematics.pdf
> >
> > 1) are these products open source?
> > 2) if so, where are the open source files?
> > 3) if not, why is it not open source?
> > 4) PDFs are not considered design files:
> >         https://www.oshwa.org/definition/
> >         "The hardware must be released with documentation including
> design files, and must allow modification and distribution of the design
> files."
> > 5) the owner/author of many of these is DogHunter/Linino, not Arduino,
> why is that?
> >
> > we emailed the arduino folks (Federico Musto, Fabio Violante, Daniela
> Antonietti) to get clarification and where these files are located for the
> open-source hardware and software products from arduino.
> >
>
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