[Discuss] Open source files and code (and license) for Arduino products missing?
pt at adafruit.com
Thu Jun 15 21:11:33 UTC 2017
and here is some more.
installed Orcad Capture Lite (which was quite an adventure :) we were able to example the DSN files posted for other products. these are in addition to the list of items from before.
The "DSN" file posted is the orcad schematic only - there is no board file information or layout included (it's the same as the PDF)
Arduino INDUSTRIAL 101
the link "EAGLE files: arduino-industrial101-reference-design.zip" does not link to Eagle files.
the logos on the physical board include DogHunter and linino.
it is a zip of an ORCAD DSN file which is also just a schematic. there is no board file information or layout included (it's the same as the PDF)
the WiFi/Linux logic is in a blackbox called 'chiwawa' module.
this module has an Arduino logo on the PCB and tin. It appears to be exclusively designed by "doghunter" (also the author of the Arduino Industrial 101 schematics)
we could not find any schematics or layout for this module anywhere.
also no board layout files, only schematic in PDF and Orcad DSN format (it's the same as the PDF)
this file does have a Creative Commons 2.5 BY-SA notice on it
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:46 AM, Phillip Torrone <pt at adafruit.com> wrote:
> a few people emailed me directly and pointed out there are a lot more arduino.org products that are missing files and licenses, code, etc. here is another...
> Schematic & Reference Design
> EAGLE files: Braccio-Shield-reference-design.zip (coming soon)
> Schematic: Braccio-Shield-schematic.pdf (coming soon)
> (and it appears there is no indication the mechanics will be released either)
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:21 PM, phillip torrone <pt at adafruit.com> wrote:
> on arduino day april 1, 2017 there was the promise to keep arduino open source, it's on the packaging and more and is what is advertised. consumers are purchasing things that are called open-source when it comes to arduino products.
> here's a cursory review of some of the boards from arduino.org. there are some missing files/licenses we looked for but could not find.
> Arduino Primo: http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-primo
> "Schematic & Reference Design - Coming soon"
> there's also firmware burned onto the STM32FL103
> but unclear where the source code for that lives or what license its under
> Star Otto: http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-star-otto
> Only Schematic posted, no license indicated, DogHunter logo is the only ownership note
> Arduino STAR - LCD http://www.arduino.org/products/accessories/arduino-star-lcd
> No technical files.
> Arduino YUN MINI: http://www.arduino.org/products/boards/arduino-yun-mini
> Only schematic posted, no license indicated, DogHunter is author/owner
> Schematic black-boxes "WiFi module" despite it being an integral part of the board and designed by Arduino.org, not a submodule
> Arduino LUCKY SHIELD: http://www.arduino.org/products/shields/arduino-lucky-shield
> Schematics have no license indicated, DogHunter is author/owner
> EAGLE files: arduino-Lucky-Shield-reference-design.zip links to a PDF of the gerber print with no Eagle Files, DogHunter/Linino is author/owner
> some of these are new products so perhaps it takes some time, however some are from 2014, 2015 or 2016:
> 1) are these products open source?
> 2) if so, where are the open source files?
> 3) if not, why is it not open source?
> 4) PDFs are not considered design files:
> "The hardware must be released with documentation including design files, and must allow modification and distribution of the design files."
> 5) the owner/author of many of these is DogHunter/Linino, not Arduino, why is that?
> we emailed the arduino folks (Federico Musto, Fabio Violante, Daniela Antonietti) to get clarification and where these files are located for the open-source hardware and software products from arduino.
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