[Discuss] curious statement on github about oshwa certiification
jeff at publiclab.org
Sun Jul 3 16:38:11 UTC 2016
I'd be curious to hear too, maybe they mean that if they self-certify in
the program, then violate the requirements, that they'd face compliance
penalties? But those are not civil lawsuits, and they could be avoided
simply by withdrawing from the program. It's pretty straightforward, so
more info from them would be helpful.
It's also a little frustrating, of course, to hear an unsupported opinion
(esp. the "only" part) like that included as if it were somehow
incontrovertible or self-evident, as I'd love to see more discussion
instead of FUD. In any case, they should also be aware that they can of
course be compliant with the open hardware definition (and so be "open
hardware") without being in the certification program.
On Jul 3, 2016 12:22 PM, "Emilio Velis" <contacto at emiliovelis.com> wrote:
> I wonder about that statement too. Good catch, Nancy. I don't understand
> what kinds of civil lawsuits the person refers to. Perhaps if we write them
> they can explain it a bit further...?
> On 2 July 2016 at 23:56, Nancy Ouyang <nancy.ouyang at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Err, was more wondering about the last phrase, "the only thing that
>> certification adds to a project is increased liability to civil suits,"
>> which I'm sure is a very unflattering portrayal of the value that
>> certification adds, unless I'm very confused.
>> On Jul 2, 2016 12:45 PM, "Matt Maier" <blueback09 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Everything is "explicitly not compliant" with the OSHWA certification by
>>> default. You have to opt-in.
>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Nancy Ouyang <nancy.ouyang at gmail.com>
>>>> "This project is open source in the sense that I legally permit people
>>>> to do whatever they want with the source code, design drawings, etc.; and
>>>> in the sense that I provide that information for them to do what they want.
>>>> It is EXPLICITLY NOT COMPLIANT with the OSHWA Certification. It never will
>>>> be, because the only thing that certification adds to a project is
>>>> increased liability to civil suits. "
>>>> Is this simply a complaint about copyleft vs public domain, or is there
>>>> more to it? Haven't been following the certification draft (beta?)
>>>> discussion, sorry -- does anyone have a link? skimmed oshwa.org and
>>>> didn't see anything in particular (though saw a discussion about the design
>>>> of the mark i think)
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
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