[Discuss] $9 OSHW computer announced

Sat May 9 17:49:21 UTC 2015

Good to see it already in the Best Practices.  Maybe an OSHWA blog
post would help, too?  Along the lines of the great post written last
year on Creative Commons and the Non-Commercial clause.

Re: CHIP, I posted today asking about the availability of their design
files and look forward to their response:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer/comments?cursor=9832869#comment-9832868
"The Kickstarter campaign states that it is Open Source in the present
tense. Could you please point to where the design files are located
and the license(s) being used? If the design files are not published
yet, then I think it would be prudent to rephrase the campaign page to
state when and with what license they will be published"

cheers,
drew

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:29 AM, alicia <amgibb at gmail.com> wrote:
> In the Best Practices it states:
>
> Don’t refer to hardware as open-source until the design files are available.
> If you plan on open-sourcing the product in the future, say that instead.
>
> Pierce, I like that idea!
>
> Alicia
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Pierce Nichols <pierce at logos-electro.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Creators crowdfunding new OSHW products have a good reason to keep the
>> files private until they are shipping; they'd typically like to ship their
>> product before any clones.
>>
>> I think there's an opportunity here for the OSHWA to both help with this
>> issue and have the opportunity to enforce best practices. The OSHWA could
>> create a file escrow system for crowdfunders. It ought to work something
>> like this:
>>
>> -- Developer deposits files with OSHWA and pays a fee
>> -- OSHWA audits the files to make sure they meet the definition
>> -- If they do, the developer gets a badge or something to show that they
>> aren't going to forget to release the files or anything like that
>> -- Once the product starts shipping and/or a set time period passes, OSHWA
>> publishes the files.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> -p
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Emilio Velis <contacto at emiliovelis.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This could be one of the points to think about regarding "best
>>> practices", to actually release files before claiming to be open source or
>>> to support it.
>>>
>>> This could be a very healthy position that the whole open source
>>> community should enforce.
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2015 at 17:10, Drew Fustini <pdp7pdp7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that is a very good point.
>>>>
>>>> I did get to meet them last month when I was out in California for a
>>>> conf.  They seem sincere about open source, but I agree, the proof is in the
>>>> publishing of properly licensed files.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ben Gray <ben at phenoptix.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Things that say they will be open source don't always become open
>>>>> source. To say something "is totally open source" and then not have the
>>>>> files available is in my opinion dishonest.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben Gray - Director
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.phenoptix.com
>>>>> twitter.com/phenoptix
>>>>> plus.google.com/+phenoptix
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8 May 2015 at 20:58, Drew Fustini <pdp7pdp7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought this would be of interest.  inexpensive, open source and
>>>>>> powerful enough for several use cases.  i backed it yesterday, and
>>>>>> hope that Next Thing Co. can execute on time and on budget:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next Thing Co. Releases “World’s First” $9 Computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://makezine.com/2015/05/07/next-thing-co-releases-worlds-first-9-computer/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The board is Open Hardware, runs a flavor of Debian Linux, and boasts
>>>>>> a 1Ghz R8 ARM processor, 512MB of RAM, and 4GB of eMMC storage. It is
>>>>>> more powerful than a Raspberry Pi B+ and equal to the BeagleBone Black
>>>>>> in clock speed, RAM, and storage. Differentiating Chip from Beagle is
>>>>>> its built-in WiFi, Bluetooth, and the ease in which it can be made
>>>>>> portable, thanks to circuitry that handles battery operation."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the Kickstarter page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "We built C.H.I.P. to make tiny powerful computers more accessible and
>>>>>> easier to use. A huge part of making C.H.I.P. accessible is making
>>>>>> sure that it can change to meet the needs of the community. That's why
>>>>>> both C.H.I.P. and PocketC.H.I.P. are both TOTALLY OPEN SOURCE. This
>>>>>> means all hardware design files schematic, PCB layout and bill of
>>>>>> materials are free for you the community to download, modify and use."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> drew
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>>>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
>>>>>> http://lists.oshwa.org/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
>>>>> http://lists.oshwa.org/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> discuss mailing list
>>>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
>>>> http://lists.oshwa.org/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> discuss mailing list
>>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
>>> http://lists.oshwa.org/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pierce Nichols
>> Principal Engineer
>> Logos Electromechanical, LLC
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> discuss mailing list
>> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
>> http://lists.oshwa.org/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> discuss mailing list
> discuss at lists.oshwa.org
> http://lists.oshwa.org/listinfo/discuss
>