[Discuss] is intel edison open-source hardware?

[Jeffrey Warren]

+1 w Nancy and +1 letter!

(Hi Seth!)
 On Mar 5, 2015 8:23 PM, "Nancy Ouyang" <nancy.ouyang at gmail.com> wrote:

> Re: Galileo, Why can't they just stay away from the words "open source
> hardware"? I don't understand what's so blinking hard about that.
>
> I'm fine with Edison being closed-source and Intel protecting something
> they spent a lot of resources on. That's because they* don't claim it's
> open source hardware*.
>
> Sure, I'm drafting a letter. I'm working on etherpad and will ask for help
> editing soon.
> http://etherpad.mit.edu/p/oshw-may-2015
>
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>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Hunter, Seth E <seth.e.hunter at intel.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the Edison Source files they provide:
>> http://www.intel.com/support/maker/edison.htm   The Edison unit is
>> closed – but everything around it should be well documented. I think the
>> reason is that the SOC and Edison package is a 9 layer board and the
>> Tangier team spent a long time turning a mobile phone SOC and the Broadcom
>> Wifi/Bluetooth into a small unit that could be integrated with products in
>> a modular way.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I want to figure out is if you can convert an Allegro and Orcad
>> files into a format that makers can work with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding Galileo here is what I could find:
>>
>> Galileo gen 1:
>> https://communities.intel.com/community/makers/galileo/documentation/galileodocuments
>>
>> Galileo gen 1 reference design:
>> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/24514/eng/Galileo%20Reference%20Design.zip
>> (its in a format called brd)
>>
>> Galileo gen 2:
>> https://communities.intel.com/community/makers/galileo/documentation/intel-galileo-gen-2-development-board-documents
>>
>>
>>
>> What’s weird is that at one point I downloaded the board files for
>> Galileo Gen 1 to try and understand if makers/developers could use them to
>> go to product with the Quark SOC – and they were on the web and easy to
>> find.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t work directly with the software groups that make these boards but
>> I’ve gotten to know their org fairly well. We are trying to find a way to
>> gently push them towards OSH standards. If folks can send me feedback about
>> this I’ll gather it together to see where these products are with regard to
>> the checklists – I’m not sure if anyone has ever done this… but it would be
>> useful to present that information to the right people and I know the right
>> channels I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seth Hunter
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> *From:* discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org [mailto:
>> discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nancy Ouyang
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:39 PM
>> *To:* The Open Source Hardware Association Discussion List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] is intel edison open-source hardware?
>>
>>
>>
>> sorry, the galileo. i couldn't figure out from the web if Intel claims
>> edison is open-source or not, but a friend told me it wasn't.
>>
>>
>>      ~~~
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>>
>> arvados.org (open source software for provenance, reproducing, and
>> scaling your analyses)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Nancy Ouyang <nancy.ouyang at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/do-it-yourself/galileo-maker-quark-board.html
>>
>>
>>
>> *Providing users with a fully open source hardware* and software
>> development environment, the Intel Galileo Gen 2 board complements and
>> extends the Arduino line of product
>>
>>
>>
>> 10 clicks in all I found was a PDF of the schematic.
>> http://www.intel.com/support/galileo/sb/CS-035168.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> While better than nothing, that certainly doesn't fulfill the definition:
>>
>>
>>
>> "The hardware must be released with documentation including design
>> files, and must allow modification and distribution of the design files. "
>>
>> "These are the original source files that you would use to make
>> modifications to the hardware’s design. *The act of sharing these files
>> is the core practice of open-source hardware*."
>>
>> http://www.oshwa.org/definition/
>>
>>
>>
>> Just checking if someone knows better than me what's going on here.
>>
>> ~~~
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>>
>> arvados.org (open source software for provenance, reproducing, and
>> scaling your analyses)
>>
>>
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