[Discuss] is intel edison open-source hardware?

[Hunter, Seth E]

You are right – I’d be happy to pass that letter on to the product managers if we can be specific about what files we want posted – and what is missing.  OSH is a new concept for many at Intel and is misinterpreted -- also many people do not know about OSHWA – so think there is a good opportunity here to use this as a case study – by contrasting it with the Minnowboard max (for example)

Seth

From: discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Ouyang
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Re: Galileo, Why can't they just stay away from the words "open source hardware"? I don't understand what's so blinking hard about that.

I'm fine with Edison being closed-source and Intel protecting something they spent a lot of resources on. That's because they don't claim it's open source hardware.

Sure, I'm drafting a letter. I'm working on etherpad and will ask for help editing soon.
http://etherpad.mit.edu/p/oshw-may-2015

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Hunter, Seth E <seth.e.hunter at intel.com<mailto:seth.e.hunter at intel.com>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Here are the Edison Source files they provide: http://www.intel.com/support/maker/edison.htm   The Edison unit is closed – but everything around it should be well documented. I think the reason is that the SOC and Edison package is a 9 layer board and the Tangier team spent a long time turning a mobile phone SOC and the Broadcom Wifi/Bluetooth into a small unit that could be integrated with products in a modular way.

What I want to figure out is if you can convert an Allegro and Orcad files into a format that makers can work with.

Regarding Galileo here is what I could find:
Galileo gen 1: https://communities.intel.com/community/makers/galileo/documentation/galileodocuments
Galileo gen 1 reference design: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/24514/eng/Galileo%20Reference%20Design.zip  (its in a format called brd)
Galileo gen 2: https://communities.intel.com/community/makers/galileo/documentation/intel-galileo-gen-2-development-board-documents

What’s weird is that at one point I downloaded the board files for Galileo Gen 1 to try and understand if makers/developers could use them to go to product with the Quark SOC – and they were on the web and easy to find.

I don’t work directly with the software groups that make these boards but I’ve gotten to know their org fairly well. We are trying to find a way to gently push them towards OSH standards. If folks can send me feedback about this I’ll gather it together to see where these products are with regard to the checklists – I’m not sure if anyone has ever done this… but it would be useful to present that information to the right people and I know the right channels I think.

Seth Hunter


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From: discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org<mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org> [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org<mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org>] On Behalf Of Nancy Ouyang
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sorry, the galileo. i couldn't figure out from the web if Intel claims edison is open-source or not, but a friend told me it wasn't.

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Nancy Ouyang <nancy.ouyang at gmail.com<mailto:nancy.ouyang at gmail.com>> wrote:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/do-it-yourself/galileo-maker-quark-board.html

Providing users with a fully open source hardware and software development environment, the Intel Galileo Gen 2 board complements and extends the Arduino line of product

10 clicks in all I found was a PDF of the schematic. http://www.intel.com/support/galileo/sb/CS-035168.htm

While better than nothing, that certainly doesn't fulfill the definition:

"The hardware must be released with documentation including design files, and must allow modification and distribution of the design files. "
"These are the original source files that you would use to make modifications to the hardware’s design. The act of sharing these files is the core practice of open-source hardware."
http://www.oshwa.org/definition/

Just checking if someone knows better than me what's going on here.
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