[Discuss] interview with Andrew "Bunnie" Huang
Pablo Kulbaba
pablokulbaba at gmail.com
Wed Jan 15 15:33:37 UTC 2014
Interesting.
Thanks for sharing, Matt.
On 15/01/2014 11:51 a.m., Matt Maier wrote:
> http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=69&doc_id=1320638
> "*CK:* Open-source hardware seems to be in its infancy in terms of
> what business model people will implement. Are there any bright and
> shining stars you think are doing it well?
>
> *BH:* This is a tricky question, because it carries so many
> assumptions with it. The open hardware community itself still hasn't
> come to terms with what it even means to be open-source -- there are
> layers of openness in hardware. For example, because I don't disclose
> to you the smelting process or mining location for the copper used in
> my circuit boards, does that mean the PCB is closed-source? Because a
> design uses a chip, but the mask patterns aren't open, is the design
> closed-source? To "build something from source" has a very different
> meaning in hardware than in software.
>
> It also assumes that the One True Model of IP is the American model.
> That's a big assumption; China has a different model for IP. It's not
> quite the bleak picture of rampant thievery that pundits so blithely
> tout. But one thing is for sure: The ecosystem is much more "open"
> than the American model. I can get the schematics design source for
> lots of products in China, but with unclear or unknown licensing
> conditions. I call this the "Gongkai" model of open-source. So to some
> extent, the brightest shining stars in the open hardware world are the
> Chinese Shanzhai; they've turned this Gongkai IP model into
> billion-dollar hardware industries.
>
> *CK:* There has been some frustration with a single closed-source
> component in your laptop. Do you think that will get resolved so that
> it can be entirely open-source? Do you feel that is necessary to
> achieve your goal?
>
> *BH:* Again, layers of openness. Actually, /all/ the /components/ are
> closed. I don't have the formula for the dielectric of the capacitors;
> nor do I have the design for the magnetics inside the Ethernet jack,
> or mask works for any of the chips. I have only pushed one layer down
> of openness, namely, into the circuit card assembly design. It's the
> one and only piece that I personally have full control over and have
> the full freedom to choose to make open. It's progress in the right
> direction, and I'm happy to move the ball in the right direction, even
> if it's still not totally in the end-zone.
>
> I believe the "closed-source component" you are referring to is the
> GPU embedded within the ARM SoC. The GPU is annoyingly closed; but I
> use the laptop every day just fine without it. There's not a lot that
> I do that requires a GPU, and I don't particularly care for fancy
> window manager effects and what not (in fact, I go out of my way to
> turn them off when they are introduced into other OSes). However,
> scrolling would be a little bit smoother if we could use the GPU, and
> there are some projects to reverse-engineer the GPU that I'm excited
> about.
>
> I'm perfectly happy to work with reverse-engineered components and
> consider them "open" for my personal purposes -- if I can hack it, I
> own it; even if hacking it means a little elbow grease to extract the
> details. I'm not stymied by dogma; as long as the net result is
> constant progress toward more openness, I believe we're better off
> today than we were yesterday."
>
>
>
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