[Discuss] Current status of USB VID/PID for open source hardware?

Catarina Mota catarina at openmaterials.org
Mon Nov 4 19:39:00 UTC 2013


Yup, here's the video of Ian's talk at the OHS last year:
https://vimeo.com/63986266


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Mike Hord <mike.hord at sparkfun.com> wrote:

> Ian from Dangerous Prototypes gave a very insightful presentation about
> the nightmares involved in this at the 2012 OHS.
>
>
> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/10/03/open-hardware-summit-2012-usb-and-open-hardware-presentation/
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, David A. Mellis <dam at mellis.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> This is an important issue and one the OSHWA board is interested in. As a
>> first step, I thought it would be good to include a discussion of the USB
>> VID/PID issues in the open-source hardware FAQ and best practices document
>> on the OSHWA website.
>>
>> Anyone have any good pointers to existing information on the topic that I
>> should reference or link to?  Any specific questions / issues you'd like to
>> see addressed in the write up?
>>
>> Anyone have any contacts with the USB IF or other relevant parties? We'd
>> like to work on outreach to them.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Andrew Stone <stone at toastedcircuits.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Squat on VID f055 (get it? :-)).  This will make this VID unassignable
>>> and is actually better for the consortium than ppl choosing a random VID
>>> because the other VIDs remain unused.  No one has the legal right to
>>> control what bits you send over the wire... they can only control your use
>>> of the usb logo. IANAL IANYL this is not legal advice blah blah...
>>>
>>>   Use random pid and your driver can verify the product name string to
>>> avoid any possible conflicts.
>>> On Oct 20, 2013 5:52 PM, "Adam Fabio" <afabio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Everyone,
>>>> Disclosure - I'm a member of the open source hardware community, and
>>>> also an author for Hackaday. I'm doing a bit of research for an article
>>>> about USB VID/PID $5000 cost and open source hardware. Nick Johnson of a
>>>> Arachnid Labs posted a blog entry about the issue recently, and the
>>>> reception he received when asking the USB-IF about the issue was cold to
>>>> say the least.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.arachnidlabs.com/blog/2013/10/18/usb-if-no-vid-for-open-source/
>>>>
>>>> I know the openMoko project here:
>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs is an option.
>>>>
>>>> Is OSHWA communicating with the USB-IF on this issue?  If so, what
>>>> direction are they headed?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Adam Fabio
>>>>
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