[Discuss] Current status of USB VID/PID for open source hardware?

Mike Hord mike.hord at sparkfun.com
Mon Nov 4 19:37:11 UTC 2013


Ian from Dangerous Prototypes gave a very insightful presentation about the
nightmares involved in this at the 2012 OHS.

http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/10/03/open-hardware-summit-2012-usb-and-open-hardware-presentation/

Mike


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, David A. Mellis <dam at mellis.org> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> This is an important issue and one the OSHWA board is interested in. As a
> first step, I thought it would be good to include a discussion of the USB
> VID/PID issues in the open-source hardware FAQ and best practices document
> on the OSHWA website.
>
> Anyone have any good pointers to existing information on the topic that I
> should reference or link to?  Any specific questions / issues you'd like to
> see addressed in the write up?
>
> Anyone have any contacts with the USB IF or other relevant parties? We'd
> like to work on outreach to them.
>
> David
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Andrew Stone <stone at toastedcircuits.com>wrote:
>
>> Squat on VID f055 (get it? :-)).  This will make this VID unassignable
>> and is actually better for the consortium than ppl choosing a random VID
>> because the other VIDs remain unused.  No one has the legal right to
>> control what bits you send over the wire... they can only control your use
>> of the usb logo. IANAL IANYL this is not legal advice blah blah...
>>
>>   Use random pid and your driver can verify the product name string to
>> avoid any possible conflicts.
>> On Oct 20, 2013 5:52 PM, "Adam Fabio" <afabio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Everyone,
>>> Disclosure - I'm a member of the open source hardware community, and
>>> also an author for Hackaday. I'm doing a bit of research for an article
>>> about USB VID/PID $5000 cost and open source hardware. Nick Johnson of a
>>> Arachnid Labs posted a blog entry about the issue recently, and the
>>> reception he received when asking the USB-IF about the issue was cold to
>>> say the least.
>>>
>>> http://www.arachnidlabs.com/blog/2013/10/18/usb-if-no-vid-for-open-source/
>>>
>>> I know the openMoko project here:
>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs is an option.
>>>
>>> Is OSHWA communicating with the USB-IF on this issue?  If so, what
>>> direction are they headed?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Adam Fabio
>>>
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