[Discuss] public files vs export control laws

Will Canine willcanine at gmail.com
Fri May 10 17:46:45 UTC 2013


I think that Wilson's point is that regulation can't stop the dispersion of disruptive designs via the Internet; he is not really looking for a waver or exemption or anything like that. His point is that now it's started, it can't be stopped, regulation be damned. 

I'm as uninterested in guns as anyone here, but I do think it's worth looking at what he is doing more closely -- his tactics are worth learning from at the very least. 

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On May 10, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Tom Igoe <tom.igoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd have to agree, Malcolm.
> 
> malcolm stanley <a.malcolm.stanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My experience with Export Control for encryption technologies used in consumer devices, instantiated as DRM solutions for Video on Demand movies, suggests to me that the exception being sought is somewhat ... unrealistic.
>> 
>> Weaponization of any technology is probably a poor strategy for accomplishing the acheivement of a waiver from regulation.
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>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Matt Maier <blueback09 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is a dilemma that's been building up for a while now. Open source is all about sharing ideas so that anyone who wants to build them, or build off of them, can do so. Export control is a legal regime that makes sharing of certain ideas with non-authorized entities a federal crime.
>>> 
>>> Those of you who were at the hardware documentation jam might remember the subject of legal constraints coming up, but at the time I didn't have a good example.
>>> 
>>> It would seem that we now have our test case. The State Department has ordered Defense Distributed to stop that whole "sharing guns" thing while they review whether or not making them internationally available violates International Traffic in Arms Regulations.
>>> 
>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/09/state-department-demands-takedown-of-3d-printable-gun-for-possible-export-control-violation/
>>> 
>>> Cody Wilson, a law student, says that what he's doing falls into a protected exception for non-profit public domain research. His argument is that the files are "stored in a library" in the sense that all libraries have internet access and there is a single bookstore in Austin providing the published plans. 
>>> 
>>> Getting any kind of official exception to export control for open source technology development would be a huge win. It would pave the way for much more ambitious projects.
>>> 
>>> -Matt
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