[Discuss] discuss Digest, Vol 10, Issue 38

Catarina Mota catarina at openmaterials.org
Thu Mar 7 20:42:32 UTC 2013


I'm referring to a better way to determine how a project/product should be
presented to the world: Does it have the OSHW logo on it? Is it described
as open source hardware on its website etc.? How do we label open/closed
hybrids?

It's been suggested we use two different symbols, one for fully open and
another for partially open. Or that only the components that are open
source be labeled that way, which may present some manufacturing
difficulties. But I still like the idea of Tom's at glance label that can
be both on the documentation and on the product (as a sticker or
something). As Matt suggests, products that are entirely open source can
just bear the blue gear logo since there is no additional info to provide
about their openness; and items that are hybrids would have a flyer or
sticker somewhere in/on their packaging. It could be similar to the laundry
symbols on textiles.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Tom Igoe <tom.igoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you're talking about two different things here. I'm not sure
> Catarina's talking about a sticker or logo, so much as an inventory tool.
>
> t.
>
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Matt Maier wrote:
>
> Catarina,
>
> I agree with all of your sentiments regarding the integrity of the open
> source hardware definitions and mark(s).
>
> It doesn't seem like a sticker or a logo will have enough space to provide
> any useful resolution on which subcomponents are open. And as you pointed
> out the source files, while they can contain infinite resolution, might be
> hard to find.
>
> What if the mark/stamp/logo/whatever was used only to identify things that
> are totally open.
>
> For things that are partially open, or that contain open components, there
> could be a flyer (like a receipt, mattress tag, or warranty card) that has
> enough surface area to summarize the open components and their associated
> licenses. The added expense would be minimal and some projects would even
> have enough material to just print the flyer on an inside surface as part
> of the manufacturing process.
>
> Not so much a "mark" as an "openness card."
>
> Of course it wouldn't be mandatory, but the OSHWA could define best
> practices and a template for the openness card to make it easy for
> producers to standardize so that consumers/developers know what they're
> looking at.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
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>> Agreed, this could work. I wasn't suggesting that the more detailed label
>> needs to be on the product itself (though a sticker would make it easier
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>> deal with), but there should be some sort of clarity about whether or not
>> a
>> project is open or partially open. And if we say it's partially open then
>> somewhere (on the documentation? on the website? on the product's
>> packaging?) we should state which parts are open source.
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>> > -Matt
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>> >> This is why I was so attracted to Tom's idea of a label that, no matter
>> >> where it's placed on the product, tells you right away what parts are
>> >> open.
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