[Discuss] OSHW logo

Marc-Olivier Schwartz marcolivier.schwartz at gmail.com
Mon Jun 10 12:50:09 UTC 2013

Hi Andrew,

I totally agree with what you wrote, I never said that the Raspberry Pi could be qualified as OSHW. I just wanted to point out that it is more "open" than the graphic card in your computer for example.

By the way, if somebody has some insights about my original question for the logo of my business, I am still interested :)

Marco Schwartz

On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Back <andrew at carrierdetect.com> wrote:

> Hi Marco,
> On 10 June 2013 11:02, Marc-Olivier Schwartz
> <marcolivier.schwartz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Javier,
>> Thanks ! Indeed it is true that the Raspberry Pi is not truly open-source
>> hardware according to the definition, but I include it on my website on the
>> same level as the Arduino for two reasons :
> To the best of my knowledge it's not open source hardware at all.
> I'm a huge advocate of the Raspberry Pi, I personally don't mind that
> it isn't OSHW, and since you can seemingly only purchase the SoC in
> high volumes (not uncommon for such silicon) the design files are
> probably not that useful in practice (given the level of SoC
> integration the PCB is almost akin to a breakout board). However, this
> doesn't change the fact that it is not OSHW.
>> - On my website the focus is really on the circuits I built for home
>> automation (like how to control a relay) and that are connected to the
>> Raspberry Pi or the Arduino, and these are 100 % open-source hardware as I
>> share everything with the community. I also include your personal computer
>> in a lot of tutorials, and they are far from being open-source :)
>> - The second point might be interesting for your round table : the Raspberry
>> Pi itself is getting more and more "open". For example, you can find the
>> complete schematics here:
>> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Raspberry-Pi-Schematics-R1.0.pdf
> No licence has been applied and at best you'd have to regard these as
> for "informational use" only.
>> Recently the video drivers were also made open-source.
> Partial or full silicon datasheets and open source drivers etc. do not
> make a computer using said silicon OSHW.
> Cheers,
> Andrew
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