[Discuss] OSHW and patent trolls 99cyasr 99patents 99trolls

Alicia Gibb pip at nycresistor.com
Thu Aug 22 15:07:00 UTC 2013


Thanks for the article, it's helpful when this stuff is documented.
Catarina, oshwa's research chair is writing a business survey, this would
be a good question to enter, and really any IP issues would be good to hear
about.

Alicia
On Aug 20, 2013 7:29 PM, "Doug Leppard" <doug.leppard at gmail.com> wrote:

> Alicia thank you so much for your answer which went to the core of my
> question.  I had heard patent trolls went after startups even if there was
> no money and either killed the startup with their demands or got a piece of
> the action (percentage of the company) to force the startup to get rid of
> the threat.****
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> Colleen Chien worked a white paper on “Startups and Patent Trolls”.  The
> paper has excellent recommendations on changing patent law.  See
> http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2146251 ****
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> I am glad to hear it has not been an issue so far with the OSHW community
> but I know it has been with people on Kickstarter project and even
> Kickstarter itself.**
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> Doug Leppard****
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> *From:* discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org [mailto:
> discuss-bounces at lists.oshwa.org] *On Behalf Of *Alicia Gibb
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:39 PM
> *To:* The Open Source Hardware Association Discussion List
> *Cc:* 999jy; Marketply
> *Subject:* Re: [Discuss] OSHW and patent trolls 99cyasr 99patents 99trolls
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> I haven't yet heard of any patent trolls specifically going after open
> hardware. Considering that patent trolls make their money off IP, its
> possible that a product / project with no IP and therefore no money for
> them doesn't appeal to them. I'd also like to hear from the community if
> this has happened to anyone?****
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> As for discussion, there is a lot of discussion currently in the US
> Congress about IP reform. Nathan Seidle testified a few weeks ago offering
> his changes to the current system to lawmakers:
> https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1229****
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> If you've got ideas for patent reform, now is the time to send your
> congresspeople an email. ****
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> Cheers,****
>
> Alicia ****
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> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM, YES NOPE9 <yes at nope9.com> wrote:****
>
> One way to deal with this is to set up a database of ideas released into
> the public domain ( prior art )****
>
> These ideas could be tagged so that Goggle could search for them .......**
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> Tag could be #PublicDomainPatent****
>
>           99guspuppet****
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> On Aug 19, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Marketply wrote:****
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> Patents will get ever more competition from openly published, freed
> inventions, especially the day when there will be a reliable, open
> technology database available the patent system can easily access to review
> for prior art.****
>
>  ****
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> I've been in discussion with a patent lawyer about this for two years, and
> I'm getting ready to submit a few guidelines for patent reform, with actual
> examples. Now the time is perfect.****
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>  ****
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> There's already hints of this entering public discussion<http://blog.makezine.com/2013/05/02/first-to-file-nah-first-to-blog>
> .****
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>  ****
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> It would seem that the change to 'first to file' gives extraordinary
> advantages to open technology that hasn't yet been fully realized. I've
> been asking lawyers long before the change what this means for publishing
> (before anyone files a patent), and all replies look good for publishing
> 'open patents' before anyone can file the patent.****
>
>  ****
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> Speed is of the essence. And crowd-powered efforts on open projects have
> that as a natural advantage. ****
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>  ****
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> We only need a Quirky type of organization for publishing high quality
> open technology schematics at lightning speed, and a revolution in open
> technology is upon us.****
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>  ****
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> If anyone wants more info on the patent reform guidelines or even to
> collaborate we can open a new discussion.****
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>  ****
>
> Marino Hernandez****
>
> (just a founder of Marketply <http://www.marketply.org>)****
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> 203-429-420****
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> On August 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM Doug Leppard <doug.leppard at gmail.com>
> wrote: ****
>
> What are some experiences with OSHW and patent issues especially patent
> trolls.  A friend of mine who is a patent attorney said that almost
> anything you do could be covered by a patent already.  Recent articles
> shows of trolls going after Kickstarter projects.****
>
>  ****
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> Any experiences here?  Anything to learn from?****
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> Doug Leppard****
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